The problems that Portacle/Emacs4CL solve and the problem that Roswell solves are orthogonal problems. But beginners don't need that complexity. It is useful when I have multiple CL implementations. I can tell you that as "an absolute beginner" I don't want to install one more tool like roswell when I am still figuring out how to program in CL. Many beginners start learning CL with Portacle or (these days) Emacs4CL. I was a beginner once who started with Portacle. I don't understand the point of your comment at all!Īs I am informed, probably the best option is to use clean Emacs together with Roswell for the "kit" part u/arthurno1 - This is terrible advice for beginners. So you should say that Portacle is also really bad for beginners? Right? Right? Yet you recommend Portacle? How? Portacle does the same thing: (setq inhibit-startup-screen t) Welcome page also has link to the tutorial which should probably be taken by anyone who is "an absoulte beginner", so that setup is really bad for beginners. As "an absolute beginner" I just used the mouse to scroll. Scroll bar, tool bar are disabled on Portacle. How do you think they will scroll through big files if they are "an absolute beginner" and "so new to Emacs that you do not even have ~/.emacs". Portacle does the same thing: (defun portacle-setup-frame () This is a very bad idea to do when targeting "very new users to Emacs". U/arthurno1 - How can you piss on this post and recommend Portacle at the same time? Emacs4CL and Portacle have the same defaults.
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